Dragon SpX-7 (CRS7) - Falcon 9 v1.1 - Canaveral SLC-40 - 22.06.2015 - авария

[Старый]

m-s Gelezniak пишет:

Старый пишет: 
В криогенике это запрещено. Что запрещено?

Крепление в натяг бандажом.

Баллон от холода тоже сожмётся.

[m-s Gelezniak]

Старый пишет:

m-s Gelezniak

пишет:

Старый пишет:
В криогенике это запрещено. Что запрещено?

Крепление в натяг бандажом.

Баллон от холода тоже сожмётся.

Разница и хрупкость, плюс вибрация. В крайнем случае можно. Но стараются избигать.

[silentpom]

это все только начало пути, лет через 10 будут успехи. а луноходы должны строиться в принципе из расчета на простоту ремонта роботом. 

[Sam Grey]

Несколько человек из ВК-шного паблика про Илона Маска (включая вашего пок. слугу) перевели максимально близко к оригиналу пресс-конференцию СпейсХ за прошлый понедельник, включая все вопросы/ответы, которые журналисты потом задавали Маску. Если есть какие-то замечания к терминологии - пожалуйста, пишите. Спасибо.
http://vk.com/page-51873373_49346763

[Дмитрий В.]

Sam Grey пишет:

Несколько человек из ВК-шного паблика про Илона Маска (включая вашего пок. слугу) перевели максимально близко к оригиналу пресс-конференцию СпейсХ за прошлый понедельник, включая все вопросы/ответы, которые журналисты потом задавали Маску. Если есть какие-то замечания к терминологии - пожалуйста, пишите. Спасибо.
 http://vk.com/page-51873373_49346763

Очень хороший текст.

[azeast]

Дмитрий В. пишет:
Очень хороший текст.

Согласен.

[Vlad_hm]

Надо признать, в переводе интервью смотрится очень корректно и связно, сказано то, что должно быть сказано, и не сказано глупого и лишнего. Хорошее интервью. Если у него и работа так же поставлена - спокойно и уверенно, то всё у SpaceX будет в порядке.

[Seerndv]

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/07/spacex-falcon-9-failure-investigation-focuses-update/
 SpaceX Falcon 9 failure investigation focuses on COPV struts July 20, 2015 by Chris Bergin
 
SpaceX CEO and Chief Designer Elon Musk has updated the status of the investigation into the failure of the Falcon 9 rocket during its ill-fated CRS-7 Dragon mission. The preliminary findings point to a support strut in the Second Stage LOX tank breaking, releasing a helium pressurization bottle (Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessel) that began the series of events that resulted in the loss of the vehicle.
 
 CRS-7 Failure Latest:
SpaceX had enjoyed a string of successes since fighting back from the early days of its history.
After suffering three Falcon 1 failures in succession, the fourth flight provided the company with its first completed mission – prior to achieving a huge amount of success with its Falcon 9 rocket in 2008.
The CRS-7 failure, the 19th launch of the Falcon 9, was tasked with loft the seventh Dragon spacecraft on a key resupply mission to the Space Station, with the aim of adding to Falcon 9's string of successes.
However, an overpressure event in the Second Stage 139 seconds after liftoff resulted in the loss of Dragon and the disintegration of the Falcon 9 launch vehicle.
The cause of the failure was not immediately known – with only a short message shortly after the loss from Mr. Musk providing some information that pointed to the Second Stage of the Falcon 9.
"There was an overpressure event in the Second Stage liquid oxygen tank. Data suggests a counterintuitive cause. That's all we can say with confidence right now. Will have more to say following a thorough fault tree analysis."
That note placed an immediate focus on the helium pressurization system's bottles in the Second Stage of the Falcon 9.
Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessels (COPVs) – as they were named during the Shuttle era – have been a topic of engineering discussion for SpaceX in the past, with "bad trends" in a number of helium bottles causing a manifest debate relating to the CRS-6/SpX-6 and TurkmenistanSat missions.
Both missions were launched without issue.
During the blackout of the initial investigation period, SpaceX worked to recover any remaining items of the destroyed Falcon 9 to aid its knowledge base. It is understood that most publicly recognizable pieces of debris that have been found recently were both solar arrays with covers and one landing leg.
There were also notes (L2) about interest in the rods that support the helium bottles inside the LOX tank in the second stage.
(Image left of a COPV support in the First Stage – which Mr. Musk noted is the same design as those in the Second Stage).
It was suggested that one of these rods – or struts – may have failed during ascent.
Such a scenario would have resulted in a loose bottle – which are classed as "buoyant" – impacting with the surrounding inners of the tank.
Mr. Musk confirmed that the failure of a support strut for a helium bottle is the leading theory, aided by ground-based stress testing that resulted in one of the struts failing, leading to metallurgy evaluations showing a weakness in the material.
"The preliminary conclusion is that the failure arose from a strut in the Second Stage LOX tank – that was holding down one of the COPVs," noted Mr. Musk during Monday's media call.
"It appears that one of those struts broke free during flight."
The struts – which were supplied to SpaceX by a contractor – are typically used for tank mounting applications and are made up of a shaft with a rod end (containing a spherical bearing) screwed on at one end, and either another rod end or a bracket screwed or welded on at the other end.
 
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The rod end would fit into a bracket on the tank wall, with a nut/bolt combination running through the bracket and rod end, anchoring the assembly. There appears to be a focus on a bolt in the strut assembly.
Mr. Musk explained that ground testing of such hardware isn't fully sufficient to mirror the stresses such a strut undergoes during flight.
"It's quite unique to rockets that as the stage is accelerating, the buoyancy increases proportionate to the G-loading. It might seem counter-intuitive that as the rocket is accelerating that something in the tank would want to go 'up' more – but that's basically what happens.
"At (around) 3.2 Gs, the strut holding down one of the helium bottles appears to have snapped."
(Image left: An example of a strut – not a SpaceX graphic).
With the helium bottle loose – and likely becoming damaged – it is believed a large amount of helium would have been released into the LOX tank, resulting in the overpressure event.
It was not immediately obvious the strut was the hardware that had failed, based on flight experience and ground testing, resulting in data on hundreds of struts – including those that had already flown without issue.
Also, the struts were designed to handle 10,000 lbs of force, per its certification. However, based on the period of when the Falcon 9 failed, it is estimated that the force would have been around 2,000 lbs.
SpaceX also examined the CRS-7 Falcon 9's processing flow, reviewing closeout photos that showed no obvious issues with the struts inside the tank during assembly.
"It's proving to be quite a puzzle," added Mr. Musk.
"The telemetry data also somewhat confusingly shows a drop in helium pressure – which you'd expect with a breach in the system – and then, somewhat strangely, a rise (of pressure) in the system, back to its starting pressure. This is obviously quite confusing."
The theory revolves around a bottle breaking free, twisting around, resulting in its helium line "pinching" off the helium manifold, which subsequently restored pressure in the helium system. However, it would have still released enough helium into the tank to cause the Second Stage to fail.
"This is somewhat speculative, but that's the best explanation we can think of right now," added Mr. Musk. "A really odd failure mode."
The event happened within a quarter of a second, with the overpressure occurring at speed due to the propellant not being used – given the rocket was still in first stage flight.
The immediate forward plan to return the Falcon 9 to flight is to change the struts inside all future tanks, independently tested to ensure their quality before being used in the rocket.
"Whatever something is certified to handle, we're not going to believe that. We're going to test every single strut. We're going to switch to a strut that has an even higher margin of safety."
Based on the replacement schedule, Mr. Musk believes the impact to SpaceX's manifest will only be a matter of months, with the next flight – with a yet-to-be-decided payload – expected no sooner than late September.
"But we want to make sure we're turned over every piece of data, that we've diagnosed the issue correctly, or if any more issues we need to be addressed as well and that all our customers are onboard."
Further articles will follow.
(Images: via L2's SpaceX Section, including assets from L2's CRS-7 Video Analysis Section – which involves numerous videos techniques and evaluations with thanks to members jdeshetler, bstrong, moralec and Okan170 – these are not official SpaceX investigation assets. Other images from Keltisch WerWolf, SpaceX and NASA)
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[Александр Ч.]

[triage]

а как тут указан скафандр?
RS - про этот ключ писали?

[pk13]

Short Extravehicular Mobility Unit (SEMU)

[Александр Ч.]

pnetmon пишет:
RS - про этот ключ писали?

Он самый, гаешный 
Про скафандр смотрим раздел EVA.
Падалка, кстати, без варежек остался

[azeast]

"Деталь из металла" и не тонет...И опять про первую ступень.

"Обломки ракеты SpaceX Falcon 9, потерпевшей крушение на старте с космодрома на мысе Канаверал (штат Флорида, США) в июне, найдены у берегов архипелага Силли в Великобритании, передает телеканал iTV со ссылкой на Агентство морской безопасности и береговой охраны.
Ракета Falcon 9 потерпела крушение на третьей минуте полета 28 июня. По предварительным данным, причиной катастрофы могла стать поломка стойки в топливной системе первой ступени ракеты.
Деталь из металла длиной 10 метров с изображением американского флага была извлечена из воды в четверг и "вероятнее всего, является беспилотной ракетой Space X Falcon 9", сообщает Агентство морской безопасности и береговой охраны."

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/space/20151127/1329804003.html#ixzz3siAHgRlk

[triage]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-34941462






как доставляли из воды
 https://twitter.com/Hicks_PG/status/669958282073755648

[azeast]

[triage]

вопрос а почему именно этот пуск, а никакой другой?

другие тоже задаются этим вопросом https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/670159388921995264

обсуждение какой же пуск https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/3ug55w/scilly_falcon_9_updates/
и решили CRS-4


при взрыве разве мог остаться такой большой кусок находящийся у второй ступени?
(из вики CRS-6)

[Старый]

pnetmon пишет:
вопрос а почему именно этот пуск, а никакой другой?

При других пусках ступень выходит на орбиту и соответственно сгорает. Алюминиевая обшивка сгорает полностью. 

при взрыве разве мог остаться такой большой кусок находящийся у второй ступени?

Та там такой взрыв был...

Вот интересно почему оно не утонуло?

[triage]

Старый пишет:

pnetmon пишет:
вопрос а почему именно этот пуск, а никакой другой?

При других пусках ступень выходит на орбиту и соответственно сгорает. Алюминиевая обшивка сгорает полностью. 

первая ступеь сгорает? это та которая должна приземлятся? 

[Старый]

pnetmon пишет:

Старый пишет:

pnetmon пишет:
вопрос а почему именно этот пуск, а никакой другой?

При других пусках ступень выходит на орбиту и соответственно сгорает. Алюминиевая обшивка сгорает полностью.

первая ступеь сгорает? это та которая должна приземлятся?  

А это кусок от первой ступени?  :oops:  Виноват! 

[triage]

 https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/973318492190642176
22:03 - 12 мар. 2018 г.

Almost 3 years later, NASA's Independent Review Team on the June 28, 2015 SpaceX CRS-7 failure releases its report. Differs with SpX on the "initiating cause," but not "direct" or "immediate" causes. Faults "design error" in strut.

 https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/public_summary_nasa_irt_spacex_crs-7_final.pdf

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