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Валерий Жилинский

ЦитироватьMax Andriyahov пишет:
SpaceX подписала долгосрочную аренду с портом Канаверал на здания бывшей Spacehab Inc (которая на шаттлах своих большие исследовательские модули когда-то запускала, может кто помнит).
Главное здание будет переделано в хранилище и "мастерскую по подготовке" вернувшихся ступеней.

Здание расположено на территории порта, так что очень удобно.

 http://imgur.com/a/gD6xc
Стоп, народ, новость оказалась более интересной, чем выглядела с первого взгляда:
 
ЦитироватьSpaceX is moving some of its operations to Port Canaveral, port Chief Executive Officer John Murray said Wednesday.

The space launch company plans to lease the now-vacant former Spacehab building on the north side of the port, and is looking at constructing a second building on vacant land adjacent to that site, Murray told port commissioners.

SpaceX is expected to process and refurbish rockets, as well as potentially perform other functions, at the port, Murray said.


"We're happy to announce that they're onboard," he said. "It's good for the port, it's good for the community, and it's a high-visibility project. So we're really excited about that. They're a great client to have on our port. It's a win-win for everybody."

A formal lease agreement with SpaceX could come before port commissioners for approval as early as next month. In the meantime, Murray said SpaceX plans to move into the 52,000-square-foot former Spacehab building through a temporary property-use permit between the company and the port.

SpaceX said that permit would help it assess the former Spacehab payload processing facility's fit for its operations.

"We are pleased to have been granted temporary use of this facility to give us time to evaluate the building's suitability to support SpaceX's business in Florida on a longer-term basis," SpaceX spokesman John Taylor said.

SpaceX operates two launch pads at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station and Kennedy Space Center, but has needed more room since it began landing Falcon 9 rocket boosters in December.

The first stages of six rockets launched from the Cape have been recovered, including four landed on ships in the Atlantic Ocean that returned to the port.

"With SpaceX's recent progress in recovering first stage Falcon 9 boosters, we're looking to expand our facilities on the Space Coast to support rocket refurbishment," Taylor told FLORIDA TODAY earlier this month.

Murray said SpaceX's "rapidly expanding" operations and upcoming "very aggressive" launch schedule were factors in the company deciding to expand onto port property.

Details about how many people will work at SpaceX's Port Canaveral facilities and other specific tasks they'll perform there have not been announced.

Port Authority Vice Chair Wayne Justice said he "couldn't be more excited" to hear that SpaceX will become a tenant at Port Canaveral.

"This is great for us," Justice said. "It's like a shot of adrenaline. It's that exciting."

Port Commissioner Bruce Deardoff said he expects the lease agreement with SpaceX to also include resolving concerns SpaceX recently raised related to a proposed $15,000 fee each time a 30-ton rocket booster returns there.

SpaceX's next Cape rocket launch and water landing attempt tentatively are targeted for early Sept. 3, a mission launching the AMOS-6 communications satellite for Israeli company Spacecom.

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/spacex/2016/08/24/spacex-lease-building-port-canaveral-build-another-one/89230076/
С моей точки зрения самое главное не в том, что будет арендовано здание, ранее использовавшееся Spacehab, полезной площадью порядка 5200 кв. метров. Самое главное - намерение Маска построить новое здание, где, вероятно, SpaceX собирается организовать производство ракет большого диаметра. Пора запасаться попкорном, господа.

Max Andriyahov

подтвердили контракт
http://www.ses.com/4233325/news/2016/22407810

жаль, я ставил на сентябрь(((

Apollo13

Забавное интервью Маска 2003 года.

http://spacenews.com/rewind-a-2003-interview-with-elon-the-six-million-dollar-man-musk/

ЦитироватьQ. What ls the size of the market for the Falcon?
A. There is a secondary payload market out there that is underserved. It's not gigantic, but I think people underestimate it.
By the end of next year we will do at least two launches and maybe three. Once people start to respond to the Falcon, three or four years down the road we are doing probably five launches a year.
:)
ЦитироватьQ. What do you think of the tourism market?
A. It's hard to say. I don't really know about the market for suborbital tourist launches. I can only think about what I would do. I might spend $100,000 on a suborbital flight, but I don't know how you would offer a flight for that amount of money.
Now if you take people to orbit, to a private station or the international space station, I think you could charge a lot of money for that. I would be willing to pay $5 million for something like that and I can think of some friends of mine who would probably do the same. But you can't go through this six-month training stuff.
If you could make it a two-week training process and $5 million, I know a lot of people who would sign up.
ЦитироватьQ. Before deciding to build Falcon, did you consider financing an existing venture like Kistler?
A. I looked at Kistler. Their strategy requires an enormous amount of money. I don't think I have the resources to push them over the top, frankly. And I don't agree with launching from Australia. The biggest advantage any U.S. launch company has is access to the U.S. government as a customer. Not taking advantage of that is a really big mistake.
ЦитироватьQ. Who is watching your back in Congress, the Pentagon and NASA headquarters?
A. We do plan to establish a significant Washington presence. We're interviewing people right now. If somebody tries any dirty tricks, we want to shine a bright light on that.

che wi

Work on SpaceX's Boca Chica launch site continues

ЦитироватьBOCA CHICA, Texas — A recent visit to the SpaceX Launch Site at Boca Chica Beach in Texas –  revealed that efforts to have the NewSpace firm's Falcon 9 launch from the Lone Star State – are steadily moving forward. Heavy equipment on site at two locations show that development of the property has begun. The foundation build up can be seen being worked on, with a huge pile of earth transported onto the site that will be used to reinforce the settling sand for the main structures.

While work is proceeding apace at the launch site, the nearby community itself appears to be receding. Boca Chica Village looks, for the most part, abandoned. This is due to, for the most part, the town's boarded-up buildings. Residents have moved on to other locations due to concerns about safety considering how close they are to what will be an active launch facility.

Despite this, it is hoped that having this launch facility will provide a positive impact in the area by means of creating jobs and having a boost to the local economy.

Construction is expected to be completed by late 2017, with launches potentially starting as soon as 2018. SpaceX has stated that while NASA missions will still be launched from the Cape, the launch of commercial payloads would likely move to Boca Chica.

Hawthorne, California-based SpaceX could have as many as four launch sites from which to send the firm's Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy rockets. They include two operational sites, Cape Canaveral's Space Launch Complex 40 and Vandenberg's Space Launch Complex-4E as well as two sites that are currently being either refurbished or constructed Kennedy Space Center's Launch Complex 39A and Boca Chica (respectively).

At present, SpaceX is investigating the cause of the Sept. 1 explosion but a recent report that appeared on Ars Technica cited SpaceX's COO Gwynne Shotwell as stating the company could launch again as soon as November of this year (2016).

Salo

#1964
http://www.economist.com/news/business/21709061-entrepreneurs-finances-are-jaw-dropping-inventive-and-combustible-his-space
ЦитироватьElon Musk's empire Countdown
The entrepreneur's finances are as jaw-dropping, inventive and combustible as his space rockets
Oct 22nd 2016 | NEW YORK | Fr om the print edition

 
LIKE most technology tycoons, Elon Musk exudes disdain for finance. Convertible bonds and lease accounting are problems for Wall Street, while the visionaries in California focus on driverless cars and space travel. Yet while he might be loth to admit it, Mr Musk has become America's most audacious corporate financier as well as its best-known entrepreneur. In just over a decade he has created an empire valued at a cool $44 billion despite its heavy losses (see chart). A blend of financial laboratory, corporate labyrinth and buttock-clenching thrill ride, Musk Inc has pushed the boundary of what was thought possible.
 
As has been the case for a decade, Mr Musk's businesses face a difficult struggle to sustain their market valuations over the next 18 months, and to bolster confidence he is expected to unveil new financial measures and also new products over the next few weeks. Mr Musk has repeatedly defied the odds. But the stakes have got bigger now that shareholders, creditors and counterparties have tens of billions of dollars at risk. Tesla, an electric-car manufacturer, must ramp up production quickly and also meet the threat from new electric models designed by traditional car firms. Mr Musk wants to merge two of his firms, Tesla and SolarCity, a company which installs rooftop solar panels. Both firms burn up cash. He already has a place in American business history, but whether as a cautionary or inspiring tale will soon become clear.
As a child growing up in South Africa, Mr Musk would enter trances in which he could imagine complex computer systems. His business can be visualised as having four parts (see diagram). The biggest one is Tesla, which is publicly listed. SpaceX launches rockets for government and commercial clients and is financed by private investors. SolarCity is listed and struggling, so Tesla is trying to buy it in a backdoor bail-out. Lastly there is Mr Musk's personal balance-sheet. It is rich in assets—his stakes in the firms are worth $13 billion—but he has little cash on hand.
 
 
 In total Musk Inc has perhaps $8 billion of sales, and is set to burn $2.3 billion of cash during 2016. Its structure developed in a haphazard fashion. It includes both public and private firms, reflecting the fact that Tesla and SolarCity floated before the craze for so-called unicorns, or technology firms such as Uber that rely on private investors. Musk Inc also carries echoes of Asian and Italian business federations, which pool resources and people: SolarCity uses batteries made by Tesla, for example, and SpaceX has made loans to SolarCity. Mr Musk is the chairman of all three firms, which share some directors. His cousins manage SolarCity. Fidelity, a big asset manager, owns large stakes in each of the trio.
Mr Musk dreams of populating Mars and of hyperloops that transport people in pods between Los Angeles and San Francisco in 35 minutes. But his financial objectives are probably identical to those of carpet or chewing-gum tycoons: to raise cash, to get a high valuation and to keep control. 
Consider the ways in which Mr Musk drums up cash, first of all. He has raised an epic $6 billion of equity from investors, staff and even from Tesla's competitors (for a while, Toyota and Daimler owned stakes in the carmaker). Musk Inc also owes about $6 billion of debt to bond investors and banks. But what sets it apart is the $7 billion of cash and revenue that it has squeezed from unconventional sources. That includes deposits from customers before their cars are delivered; asset-backed securities and special-purpose funding vehicles that raise funds against assets without guarantees from Mr Musk's firms; emissions credits, loans from the government and deals under which leasing firms purchase cars in return for a guarantee that Tesla will buy them back. (Mr Musk's firms dispute our total figure on their unconventional sources of funds).

It's lonely out in space

The second goal, a high valuation, is vital to command confidence and for raising cash. The business itself is volatile—in April, 400,000 people pre-ordered Tesla's $35,000 new car, the Model-3, a welcome surprise. In September one of SpaceX's rockets exploded. So the key is to control perceptions of the distant future, in order to influence financial forecasts from banks and investors. Here Mr Musk is dazzlingly skilful. He publishes plausible "master plans" and uses shifting targets to anchor expectations. For example, in May he said Tesla would make 500,000 cars a year by 2018, ahead of his previous target of 2020. It will make only about 85,000 this year.
The result is spectacular: the average of investment-bank analysts' projections says that Tesla's revenues will soar from $7 billion to about $30 billion by 2020, following a path like those of three of history's most successful firms, Google, Apple and Amazon, at their raciest point, in the mid-2000s. Only about a fifth of these cumulative sales are from existing customer orders, yet these medium-term bank forecasts, upon which the edifice partly rests, are stable despite operational wobbles. Incredulous short-sellers have queued up to bet against SolarCity and Tesla. But the Musk empire also has plenty of fans in Silicon Valley and on Wall Street.
The last objective, control, is key to Mr Musk, who in 2000 was ousted as the boss of PayPal, an internet-payments firm he co-founded. He owns about 50% of SpaceX, but his shareholdings in Tesla (23%) and SolarCity (22%) are near the threshold wh ere control is no longer guaranteed.
To keep all these balls in the air, the firms must meet their targets. SpaceX generates cash and has an impressive order book, but must recover from the explosion in September. SolarCity needs to cut costs. Tesla must ramp up production of its Model X and Model 3 cars, and compete with rival electric cars to be launched by General Motors, Daimler and Audi, among others.
If the firms fall behind, a cash crunch becomes likely. Mr Musk's companies insist they will not burn up much more money. But they could easily eat up $4.5 billion, starting from the second half of 2016 to the end of 2018. They will also need to refinance $2 billion of maturing debt. Against this, the Musk group has about $5 billion of cash and liquidity lines from banks. Mr Musk's own finances look stretched. He has spent most of the $180m in cash from selling his stake in PayPal to eBay in 2002. He has personally borrowed $490m, secured against his Tesla shares, and most of that comes from Morgan Stanley, a Tesla underwriter. The car firm's shares would have to fall by more than half before the loans went underwater.
In the event of a squeeze, the triple objectives of raising cash, boosting the valuation and keeping control will start to conflict. The proposed SolarCity acquisition illustrates this: by getting Tesla to buy the struggling SolarCity, Mr Musk can keep it alive and maintain control. But it could hurt the valuation of Tesla, which will be lumbered with its sister firm's debt and losses. To his credit, Mr Musk has said that the independent shareholders of both firms must approve the deal.
Similarly, if Tesla were to try to ease the financial pressure by raising lots of equity, Mr Musk's stake could drop below 20%, threatening his control. He could issue non-voting shares—as Facebook has—or invoke the poison-pill provisions Tesla has in its statutes. But that might hurt the group's valuation. He could try to sell Tesla to a car or technology firm (Google almost bought it in 2013), or SpaceX, through gritted teeth, to a defence firm. But their punchy valuations mean that they would be a mouthful for even giants such as General Motors or Lockheed Martin, a defence group.
Given all this, it is likely that in the coming weeks Mr Musk will adopt a more familiar approach: squeezing costs in the short term, dreaming up new products and explaining how lean manufacturing techniques will allow his companies to revolutionise their industries. But with expectations already sky-high, it is hard to see how much more euphoria he can inspire. Mr Musk's most extraordinary creation may not be cars or spacecraft, but a business empire with a financial structure that works only if risky companies perform perfectly on ambitious plans. Mr Musk is like an astronaut orbiting the earth with no easy way down.
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

BlackMokona

Коротко , о чём статья
ЦитироватьIf the firms fall behind, a cash crunch becomes likely.
;)

Валерий Жилинский

ЦитироватьBlackMokona пишет:
If the firms fall behind, a cash crunch becomes likely.
В примерном переводе на русский: "Если развитие фирм остановится, то вероятен финансовый кризис".
   
Сейчас Маск, как велосипедист - устойчив, пока едет.

vlad7308

fall behind - отставать
cash crunch - кассовый разрыв

Если фирмы (фирмы Маска - Тесла, СоларСити, СпейсЭкс) будут отставать (от ожидаемых графиков доходов), то вероятен кассовый разрыв.
это оценочное суждение

Старый

ЦитироватьВалерий Жилинский пишет: 
Сейчас Маск, как велосипедист - устойчив, пока едет.
Тяжело ему. Ну жрать на ходу гамбургеры, держа руль одной рукой, ещё можно. А что делать когда захочется на горшок?   :oops:
1. Ангара - единственная в мире новая РН которая хуже старой (с) Старый Ламер
2. Назначение Роскосмоса - не летать в космос а выкачивать из бюджета деньги
3. У Маска ракета длиннее и толще чем у Роскосмоса
4. Чем мрачнее реальность тем ярче бред (с) Старый Ламер

Дмитрий В.

ЦитироватьСтарый пишет:
ЦитироватьВалерий Жилинский пишет:
Сейчас Маск, как велосипедист - устойчив, пока едет.
Тяжело ему. Ну жрать на ходу гамбургеры, держа руль одной рукой, ещё можно. А что делать когда захочется на горшок?
Ну, можно поработать над конструкцией седла. :oops:
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StarShip - аналоговнет!

silentpom

в тесле сделают горшок специально для Старого, не переживайте

Alex_II

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
в тесле сделают горшок специально для Старого, не переживайте
И непременно из углеволокна...
И мы пошли за так, на четвертак, за ради бога
В обход и напролом и просто пылью по лучу...

Salo

#1972
Цитировать Elon Musk Подлинная учетная запись ‏@elonmusk
Will be on @CNBC with Ron Baron in about half an hour
  7:53 - 4 нояб. 2016 г.

Ссыль
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Salo

"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Bell

ЦитироватьВалерий Жилинский пишет:
ЦитироватьBlackMokona пишет:
If the firms fall behind, a cash crunch becomes likely.
В примерном переводе на русский: "Если развитие фирм остановится, то вероятен финансовый кризис".
 
Сейчас Маск, как велосипедист - устойчив, пока едет.
Очередное подтверждение "пирамидности" всего бизнеса Маска.
Пока есть приток денег - есть видимость движения. Прекращается приток - все обваливается.
Иногда мне кажется что мы черти, которые штурмуют небеса (с) фон Браун

Юрий Морозов

ЦитироватьBell пишет:
ЦитироватьВалерий Жилинский пишет:
ЦитироватьBlackMokona пишет:
If the firms fall behind, a cash crunch becomes likely.
В примерном переводе на русский: "Если развитие фирм остановится, то вероятен финансовый кризис".
 
Сейчас Маск, как велосипедист - устойчив, пока едет.
Очередное подтверждение "пирамидности" всего бизнеса Маска.
Пока есть приток денег - есть видимость движения. Прекращается приток - все обваливается.
Бэлл, не пытайтесь казаться инфантильнее чем вы есть на самом деле. 
Вся наша цивилизация это пищевая и энергетическая пирамида.
Вы же это знаете.
Так чево же вы рефлексируете?
Не нравится работа? жена задолбала требованием денег и статуса? дети задолбали наплевательским отношением? Неудачи по жизни? 

Расслабтесь и играйте по жизни как это делает Элон, не завидуйте - делайте.

LRV_75

Юрий Морозов, судя по Вашим попыткам найти у разных людей различные комплексы и идентифицировать их статус, делаю выводы, имхо, что данные комплексы в полной мере принадлежат Вам и Вы пытаетесь от них сбежать через разные инструменты ... например, через разработку плана захвата Космоса  :D   http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum9/topic15636/message1585092/#message1585092
Главное не наличие проблем, главное способность их решать.
У каждой ошибки есть Имя и Фамилия

Штуцер

ЦитироватьAlex_II пишет:
Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
в тесле сделают горшок специально для Старого, не переживайте
И непременно из углеволокна...
Уже заряженного твердым кислородом? ;)
Но в виде обломков различных ракет
Останутся наши следы!

Валерий Жилинский

ЦитироватьBell пишет:
ЦитироватьВалерий Жилинский пишет:
ЦитироватьBlackMokona пишет:
If the firms fall behind, a cash crunch becomes likely.
В примерном переводе на русский: "Если развитие фирм остановится, то вероятен финансовый кризис".
 
Сейчас Маск, как велосипедист - устойчив, пока едет.
Очередное подтверждение "пирамидности" всего бизнеса Маска.
Пока есть приток денег - есть видимость движения. Прекращается приток - все обваливается.
Только развал у пирамиды МММ и у Маска будет принципиально разный. У МММ прекратилась покупка её акций, и всё посыпалось. У Маска "к власти" приходят акционеры, и требуют заморозить перспективные разработки и, наконец, начать зарабатывать деньги. Сначала курс акций несколько увеличится, но не надолго, через небольшой промежуток времени конкуренты рвут долю SpaceX, и курс акций стремительно проваливается. Помните, как акционеры выгнали Джобса из Эппл?
   
Если Маск не удержит управление, то будет примерно так же. Правда, не факт, что Маск согласится вернуться.

Alex_II

ЦитироватьBell пишет:
Очередное подтверждение "пирамидности" всего бизнеса Маска.
Обычный стартап. правда затянувшийся... Чего ты там нашел "пирамидного"?
ЦитироватьBell пишет:
Пока есть приток денег - есть видимость движения.
"Видимость движения вперед"? Нам бы такую "видимость", чтоб регулярно летала... А пока у нас только видимость надувания щёк хорошо выходит, и трепаться про "не имеющую аналогов Ангару"...
И мы пошли за так, на четвертак, за ради бога
В обход и напролом и просто пылью по лучу...