Al Yah 3, SES-14 (NASA GOLD) - Ariane 5 ECA (VA241) - Kourou ELA-3 - 25.01.2018 22:20 UTC

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Salo

Цитировать  Michael Baylor‏ @nextspaceflight
There has not been telemetry since first stage separation according to the graph. How @Arianespace confirmed the following events is a major question. Did they get bits of data? If it wasn't actually confirmed, that will make them look pretty bad, so hopefuly not.
 
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Чебурашка

Жопой почувствовал что что-то не так когда перестали показывать скорость и высоту полёта.

Мысль о том что это мог бы быть телескоп им. Вебба вызвала приступ паники.

Salo

Цитировать01/26/2018 01:11 Stephen Clark
Live altitude, downrange distance and velocity updates stopped being reported here at the Jupiter control center at approximately Plus+9 minutes, 30 seconds. The range operations director in the control center confirmed ignition of the second stage's HM7B engine moments before that point.
The range operations director, or DDO, also announced the Galliot ground station here at the Guiana Space Center lost contact with the Ariane 5 rocket a few seconds after ignition of the second stage. That is about the point at which the Ariane 5 should have flown over the horizon as viewed from French Guiana.
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Чебурашка

Если отказала вторая степень сразу после включения двигателя, все это хозяйство должно падать в Индийский океан где-то рядом с Зумой. Ждём сообщения о ярких болидах.

Salo

Цитировать  Cosmic Penguin‏ @Cosmic_Penguin
 В ответ @NASASpaceflight
They do have about 30 s of telemetry from the 2nd stage and all parameters looked good at that time.
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Прол

ЦитироватьStill no confirmation of Al Yah 3 separation,
Так и подтверждения SES-14 вроде тоже не было.


Salo

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ELENA

Фактически признали потерю аппаратов.

Salo

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Прол

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
But not sure about the status of the satellites yet.
Статус-"Метеор 2-1"?

Salo

Цитировать  Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight  3 мин.3 минуты назад
The latest time an Ariane 5 had an anomaly was 2002 with Hot Bird 7, Stentor. Nothing but success since then.
 
 
 
 
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Salo

Цитировать  Chris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight  1 мин.1 минуту назад
This could have major repercussions. James Webb Space Telescope springs to mind. Ariane 5 is not "just" a ComSat launcher.
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Salo

Цитировать  Chris Marshall‏ @ChrisDMarshall  5 мин.5 минут назад  
Could have a bigger impact on BepiColombo as I believe that has a tight launch window.
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Salo

Цитировать  Spaceflight Now‏ @SpaceflightNow  5 мин.5 минут назад
The last contact with the Ariane 5 rocket was a few seconds after the second stage's HM7B engine ignited, according to Arianespace. Ground teams have not made contact with the two commercial satellites carried on-board. https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/01/25/va-241-mission-status-center/ ...
 
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Salo

Цитировать01/26/2018 01:34 Stephen Clark
Here is the statement Arianespace chief executive Stephane Israel:
    "Ladies and gentlemen, I come to give you some information because we have had an anomaly on this launch. Indeed, we lost contact with the launcher a few seconds after ignition of the upper stage. At that time, we can consider that the upper composite and the satellite as being (inaudible). But as I said, we lost contact. Up to now, our customers do not have contact with the satellite. We need now some time to know if they have been separated, and where they are exactly ,to better analyze the consequences of this anomaly."
    "I want to present my deepest excuses to our customers, who have entrusted us one more time. We know that there is no launch with no risk. We know that launch is always difficult, and tonight Ariane 5 has had an anomaly, so lets take time now to better understand the situation of the satellites."
    "Arianespace, in full transparency, will come back to you to provide you with some more information as soon as we have them. I apologize on behalf of Arianespace."

01/26/2018 01:28 Stephen Clark
"We have had an anomaly on this launch," said Stephane Israel, Arianespace's chief executive.
Israel said controllers last received telemetry from the Ariane 5 shortly after ignition of the second stage's HM7B engine, which occurred around 9 minutes after liftoff.
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Чебурашка

Ses-14 оказывается был переведен с Флакона на Ариан. От судьбы не уйдешь

Прол

Жалко. Ариан-5 так хорошо выглядела в белых штанах - кто еще продержался без аварий 15 (!) лет.

Salo

Предыдущая аномалия  V157 11 декабря 2002.
ЦитироватьHere are some statistics on tonight's launch:

    241st launch of an Ariane rocket since 1979
    295th Arianespace mission
    97th launch of an Ariane 5 rocket since 1996
    65th launch of an Ariane 5 ECA rocket since 2002
    72nd flight of a Vulcan 2 engine
    197th flight of an HM7B engine
    83rd Ariane 5 launch targeting GTO
    53rd satellite for SES launched by Arianespace
    119th Airbus-built satellite launched by Arianespace
    2nd satellite for Yahsat launched by Arianespace
    27th Orbital ATK-built satellite launched by Arianespace
    1st launch from the Guiana Space Center in 2018
    1st Ariane 5 launch in 2018
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uncle_jew

#59
Ariane показали себя лжецами и позорниками.

Показывали анимацию работающей верхней ступени, когда телеметрии с неё давно уже не было. "Full transparency", my ass.

Потом ещё и прямую трансляцию отрубили, хотя трансляция во время "аномалии" - самое интересное.

При этом эта мерзкая компания вовсю поддерживается европейскими налогоплательщиками.