CST-100

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silentpom

#360
ага. или РД-180 останутся  :)  RS-68 же не human rated?

testest2

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
ага. или РД-180 останутся  :)  RS-68 же не human rated?
Всерьез такая возможность не рассматривается. Куда они денутся.
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silentpom

кто куда денется? лоббистов юлы не хватило, вулкан будет черт знает когда, выведение на дельтах будет золотым, даже если смогут как-то сертифицировать. Маск их пошлет скорее всего, или сдерет с них последние трусы. И поделом

testest2

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
кто куда денется? лоббистов юлы не хватило
На что?
Цитироватьвулкан будет черт знает когда
Так он вообще не для CST-100
Цитироватьвыведение на дельтах будет золотым
С чего бы?
Цитироватьдаже если смогут как-то сертифицировать
А может быть хотя бы призрак сомнений?
ЦитироватьМаск их пошлет скорее всего, или сдерет с них последние трусы
С чего им вообще идти к конкуренту? У них есть Атлас, который не падал ни разу.
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silentpom

А НАСА может покупать двигатели к атласу или запрет касается только пентагона?
"С чего бы? " станут ли они тратится на это, с учетом выхода дельты на пенсию

testest2

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
А НАСА может покупать двигатели к атласу или запрет касается только пентагона?
"С чего бы? " станут ли они тратится на это, с учетом выхода дельты на пенсию
Нет вообще никакого запрета.
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Александр Ч.

ЦитироватьStephen Clark ‏@StephenClark1  3 мин.3 минуты назад
Boeing has moved in to former shuttle hangar at KSC. Grand opening ceremony for CST-100 factory today.



Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  9 мин.9 минут назадFlorida, USA
Boeing got their Commercial Crew & Cargo Processing Facility mural done.



Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  9 мин.9 минут назад
Really surprised the new name for CST-100 hasn't sneaked out there by now! (No, I don't know. Boeing folk are well drilled  :D  )
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Александр Ч.

ЦитироватьJeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  2 мин.2 минуты назад
CST-100's new name is... Starliner.
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Сергей Пиденко

Пышно... :)
Человек - это усилие. М.Мамардашвили (с)

Александр Ч.

Пышно то пышно, но вот по что в ролике куски с Драконом были?
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Astro Cat

pnetmon,там про заключение контракта на доставку к МКС?

triage

#372
ЦитироватьAstro Cat пишет:
pnetmon ,там про заключение контракта на доставку к МКС?
там про Обретении нового имени
ЦитироватьBoeing Revamps Production Facility for Starliner Flights
Sep. 4, 2015
Meet the CST-100 Starliner, the newly unveiled name of Boeing's commercial crew transportation spacecraft. It's been designed with a focus on automated flight, reliable operation and frequent flights carrying NASA astronauts to the space station. It also may take paying customers to the awe-inspiring heights of low-Earth orbit and the unique sensation of sustained weightlessness.

NASA last year awarded contracts to Boeing and SpaceX to each develop systems that will safely and cost effectively transport astronauts to the International Space Station from the United States.....

Цитироватьhttp://tass.ru/kosmos/2237731
НЬЮ-ЙОРК, 4 сентября. /Корр. ТАСС Игорь Борисенко/. Новый космический корабль, который создает корпорация Boeing, будет называться Starliner ("Звездный лайнер" )

Александр Ч.

#373
Тори шутит:
ЦитироватьTory Bruno ‏@torybruno  36 мин.36 минут назад
.@dslsynth I like it. Lobbied for Star-Lord or even Groot, but Starliner is definitely better
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ЦитироватьChris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  2 ч.2 часа назад
Meanwhile, over in Hawthorne....

Народ уже дошел до сравнения звуков в роликах Дракона и Старлайнера.
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triage

#374
Цитироватьhttp://spaceflightnow.com/2015/09/04/boeing-names-its-commercial-spaceship-the-starliner/
...The Starliner name puts the CST-100 in company with the Model 307 Stratoliner and 787 Dreamliner, Boeing products which ushered in new eras in passenger transport....
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An uncrewed test flight of the CST-100 Starliner capsule is planned for May 2017 to the space station, followed by a test of the craft's emergency launch abort system in August 2017 and a piloted demonstration mission in September 2017, according to John Mulholland, vice president of commercial programs at Boeing.
Boeing's contract, like SpaceX's, has options for NASA to order up to six "post-certification" crew rotation flights to the space station after the demo mission in September 2017. The space agency has ordered its first post-certification commercial crew flight from Boeing, a launch Mulholland said is expected in December 2017
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Офтопик. Самолеты которые приведены в статье
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Model 307 Stratoliner


Имя Starliner ранее имел L-1649 Starliner
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triage

#375
Цитироватьhttp://spaceflightnow.com/2015/09/04/boeing-names-its-commercial-spaceship-the-starliner/ 
...Starliner missions will carry four astronauts to the space station, and potentially cargo, on each trip. A fifth seat may be available for paying space tourists, Mulholland told reporters...
Starliner при миссиях на космическую станцию в каждом запуске будет нести четыре астронавта, и потенциально груз. Пятое место может быть доступно для платных космических туристов, сказал Малхолланд журналистам.

О пятом месте для платного туриста заявляли в сентябре 2014 года при заключений контракта с НАСА   http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/17/us-boeing-space-idUSKBN0HC2K020140917

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Цитировать http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/09/04/boeing-names-its-commercial-spaceship-the-starliner/
Enter the Starliner: Boeing names its commercial spaceship
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Posted on September 4, 2015 by Stephen Clark
Boeing's commercial human-rated spaceship designed to ferry NASA astronauts to and from the International Space Station will be named the CST-100 Starliner, extending the company's naming theme to the final frontier, officials announced Friday.
The Boeing-operated crew capsule was known as simply the CST-100 before Friday, and managers said the craft will be ready to launch with human passengers by the end of 2017.
"Please welcome the CST-100 Starliner," announced Chris Ferguson, former NASA astronaut and Boeing's deputy manager of the CST-100 program.
The Starliner name puts the CST-100 in company with the Model 307 Stratoliner and 787 Dreamliner, Boeing products which ushered in new eras in passenger transport.
Boeing and SpaceX won contracts worth a combined $6.8 billion last year to develop commercially-owned spacecraft to take astronauts to orbit, ending NASA's sole reliance on Russia to rotate crews on the massive orbiting research complex.
"Boeing's innovation and dedication have brought us to the cusp of the next great victory in our commercial space program," said NASA Administrator Charles Bolden. "This is the time and place for which we've all been working long and hard ... It speaks especially to Boeing's energy, excitement and belief in the new system that they have been perfecting to take our astronauts, and really our hopes and dreams for the future, into space."
Boeing officials revealed the new name in a ceremony at the Kennedy Space Center.Technicians are assembling a structural test article for the Starliner spacecraft inside a former space shuttle hangar at the Florida spaceport, and construction of flight-ready versions of the capsule will begin next year.
"There's nothing that we do that's more insipring to the next generation of scientists, engineers and aerospace workers than what we do in human spaceflight," said Dennis Muilenburg, Boeing's president and CEO. "It is arguably the most challenging thing we do as well."
An uncrewed test flight of the CST-100 Starliner capsule is planned for May 2017 to the space station, followed by a test of the craft's emergency launch abort system in August 2017 and a piloted demonstration mission in September 2017, according to John Mulholland, vice president of commercial programs at Boeing.
Boeing's contract, like SpaceX's, has options for NASA to order up to six "post-certification" crew rotation flights to the space station after the demo mission in September 2017. The space agency has ordered its first post-certification commercial crew flight from Boeing, a launch Mulholland said is expected in December 2017.
NASA officials said it gave the green light to purchase the operational crew flight after Boeing completed the Starliner spacecraft's critical design review earlier this year. SpaceX has a similar design milestone planned at the end of 2015.
"I know we have a bright future ahead, and I can't wait to see our astronauts boarding a Boeing spacecraft bound for space," Bolden said.
The 2017 goal for commercial crew missions depends on how much funding NASA receives for the commercial spaceflight initiative in fiscal year 2016, which begins Oct. 1. Agency managers say they need more than $1.2 billion for the program to meet its financial commitments to Boeing and SpaceX next year.
But draft budgets passed by the Senate and the House would provide $900 million or $1 billion to the program, funding levels NASA says would create inevitable delays and put the 2017 schedule in jeopardy. A final budget bill has not been passed by both chambers, and lawmakers could vote on a temporary spending bill while they negotiate a budget plan for the rest of 2016.
"Right now, we've got a fight in Congress over funding," said Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida."We'll get the money that it needs to make sure that we can get our American astronauts flying on American vehicles, and that's what we come together today to celebrate."
Boeing has relocated the CST-100 Starliner program office to KSC from Houston, bringing up to 550 jobs to Florida's Space Coast when the spacecraft ramps up to flight operations in 2017.
Engineers will put together Starliner crew capsules inside the former Orbiter Processing Facility bay No. 3 at the space center. The shuttle hangar, located to the northwest of KSC's iconic Vehicle Assembly Building, is now named the Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility.
Space Florida lured Boeing to put its program headquarters and factory at KSC with a state-backed incentives package. Florida Gov. Rick Scott touted the deal in remarks at Friday's ceremony.
Starliner missions will carry four astronauts to the space station, and potentially cargo, on each trip. A fifth seat may be available for paying space tourists, Mulholland told reporters.
United Launch Alliance's Atlas 5 rocket launched from Cape Canaveral will haul the capsules into orbit on the way to the space station.
"You get a sense that at this point we are witnessing something we're all going to remember decades from now," Muilenburg said. "This is a point in history that reflects a new era in human spaceflight, and I'm excited about that."
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Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
Starliner при миссиях на космическую станцию в каждом запуске будет нести четыре астронавта, и потенциально груз.
Негусто.

Александр Ч.

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Олег Шляпин

Вопрос -  CST-100 Starliner можно в перспективе использовать в  лунных или марсианских программах?

testest2

ЦитироватьОлег Шляпин пишет:
Вопрос - CST-100 Starliner можно в перспективе использовать в лунных или марсианских программах?
Без солнечных батарей? Нет, он задуман как чисто низкоорбитальное такси.
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