Commercial Resupply Services 2 (CRS2)

[Sam Grey]

pnetmon пишет:
непонятно почему сейчас проект всплыл, когда до объявлении результатов или переноса осталось несколько месяцев

На спейсовском реддите дата обозначена как пятое ноября, т.е. через три недели уже.

[triage]

Да, с месяцами я дал лишку. Выше приводил ссылку на сайт НАСА где так же стояло 5 ноября. Статьи были опубликованы 1 октября - больше месяца до планируемой даты объявлений результатов.

ссылка на сайт НАСА - http://procurement.jsc.nasa.gov/crs2/ там в подвале 

9/10/15 Cargo resupply continues to be a high priority for the ISS Program and the Agency.  Evaluation of the proposals continues and NASA remains on schedule to support the November 5th award date.

Спойлер

8/7/15 Updated the Milestone Schedule to reflect an updated award date to provide additional time to evaluate Final Proposal Revisions (FPRs).

4/16/15 Updated the Milestone Schedule Award date due to additional time required to evaluate proposals.

12/2/14 Updated the milestone schedule to reflect a new contract award date.

12/1/14 Updated Contact Information.

11/17/14 Posted Amendment 4 to the RFP with Questions and Answers Round 4.

11/13/14 Posted new documents to the technical library.

11/6/14 Posted Amendment 3 to the RFP with Questions and Answers Round 3. Posted the Interested Parties List.

10/28/14 Posted Amendment 2 to the RFP with Questions and Answers Round 2. Updated the Milestone Schedule.

10/15/14 Posted Amendment 1 to the RFP with Questions and Answers Round 1.

9/25/14 Posted Modification 4 to the Pre-Solicitation Synopsis and the Request for Proposal. Updated the Milestone Schedule.

9/23/14 Posted Modification 3 to the Pre-Solicitation Synopsis and Additional Questions and Answers.

8/8/14 Updated the Milestone Schedule.

8/7/14 Posted Modification 2 to the Pre-Solicitation Synopsis with the Draft Request for Proposal Questions and Answers and the PRe-Proposal Conference Charts.

7/30/14 Modification 1 was posted to the Pre-Solicitation Synopsis.

6/17/14 Posted Multiple documents to the Technical Library.

6/16/14 Posted the Pre-Solicitation Synopsis, the Draft Request for Proposal and updated the Milestone Schedule.

6/10/14 Posted Modification 4 to the RFI and Questions and Answers Round to to Industry Day.

5/19/14 Updated the Milestone Schedule.

4/28/14 Posted Modification 3 to the RFI with the Industry Day Questions and Answers.

4/14/14 Posted Modification 2 to the RFI and the Interested Parties List.

4/11/14 Updated the Milestone schedule to reflect the actual date of Industry day.

4/9/14 Posted Modification 1 to the Industry Day Synopsis and the Industry Day Charts.

3/26/14 Posted the Industry Day Synopsis.

3/11/14 Updated the Milestone Schedule to reflect the RFI actual date and the Planned Industry Day date.

2/21/14 Posted Modification 1 to the RFI.

2/21/14 Posted documents to the technical library. Posted the RFI.

2/4/14 Created Site.

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[Димитър]

До 5 ноября неделя осталась. ...

[Александр Ч.]

Chris B - NSF ‏@NASASpaceflight  13 мин.13 минут назад

No notice of a presser for the CRS2 announcement today. Overnight note claims it's delayed to next year! (@SciGuySpace hearing delay too)

[Александр Ч.]

Однако поворот:
https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/662329945918742528

Breaking: Boeing confirms it has been eliminated from NASA's CRS2 competition.

[triage]

статья http://spacenews.com/nasa-delays-award-of-commercial-cargo-contracts-again-drops-boeing/
но правда ожидаемо, т.к. обе компании  по CRS1 крайней миссией имеют аварию.

на http://procurement.jsc.nasa.gov/crs2/ в подвале

11/5/15 The anticipated CRS2 award is now no later than January 30, 2016 to allow additional time for the Government to assess proposals.

[Димитър]

Еще 3 иесяца ждать. Запасаемся попкорном... 
А про Боинг правда!?

[Apollo13]

Александр Ч. пишет:
Однако поворот:
 https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/662329945918742528

Breaking: Boeing confirms it has been eliminated from NASA's CRS2 competition.

Небольшой шанс для Дрим Чейзера.

[Александр Ч.]

Димитър пишет:
А про Боинг правда!?

Да, Боинг подтвердил (поиск по быстрому в твиттере):

Stephen Clark ‏@StephenClark1  16 ч.16 часов назад

Regarding CRS-2 contract: Boeing confirms it's eliminated from contention, Orbital ATK still in the competition. SpaceX declines comment

Apollo13 пишет:
Небольшой шанс для Дрим Чейзера.

Ага, они пока в конкурсе:

Jeff Foust ‏@jeff_foust  17 ч.17 часов назад

SNC tells me they're still in CRS-2 competition; were told NASA "decided to re-open discussions with offerors in the competitive range."

[Александр Ч.]

Статья от Кларка NASA delays cargo award again, eliminates Boeing from contention

Posted on November 5, 2015 by Stephen Clark


A SpaceX Dragon cargo craft is seen grappled by the International Space Station's robotic arm. Credit: NASA


NASA has delayed the award of new contracts for cargo transportation services between Earth and the International Space Station, and eliminated an uncrewed version of Boeing's human-rated CST-100 Starliner capsule from the competition, officials said Thursday.
The agency upd ated a procurement website Thursday, when the cargo deals were previously scheduled to be awarded, saying the second round of Commercial Resupply Services, or CRS-2, contracts would be announced no later than Jan. 30, 2016.
The notice said the delay will "allow additional time for the government to assess proposals."
NASA is expected to pick at least two companies for CRS-2 contract awards to ensure multiple independent providers can deliver equipment to the space station.
NASA distributed letters Thursday to companies that submitted bids in the CRS-2 competition. Agency officials projected awards in April 2015 when NASA released the CRS-2 request for proposals in September 2014, but that date slipped to June, then September, and to Nov. 5 before today's update.
"CRS-2 is a complex procurement," said Dan Huot, a spokesperson at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston. "The anticipated award date has been revised to no later than January 30, 2016, to allow time to complete a thorough proposal evaluation and selection."
Huot said NASA cannot answer questions about the procurement because the agency is still in the process of evaluating proposals.
Kelly Kaplan, a Boeing spokesperson, confirmed that NASA told the company its proposal to use a cargo version of the CST-100 Starliner capsule for resupply missions was no longer under consideration.
The CST-100 crew capsule is one of two commercial spacecraft — along with SpaceX's Crew Dragon — in development to ferry astronauts to and from the space station beginning by the end of 2017.

Artist's concept of Boeing's CST-100 Starliner crew capsule docking with the International Space Station. Credit: NASA


Orbital ATK and Sierra Nevada officials said they are still in the running for new cargo contracts.
"We can confirm that we are still competing for CRS-2, but we do not have any comments specific to the delay in the contract award announcement," said Sean Wilson, an Orbital ATK spokesperson. "We will continue to respond to any additional NASA requests for information. In the meantime, we are 100 percent focused on our upcoming CRS-1 missions and returning Antares to flight in early 2016."
NASA sel ected Orbital ATK and SpaceX for multibillion-dollar cargo contracts in 2008. Orbital ATK has launched three operational flights to the space station under its CRS contract, with one failure, and SpaceX has launched seven times, also with one failure.
Sierra Nevada refocused development of its Dream Chaser space plane over the last year after losing to Boeing and SpaceX in the commercial crew program. The company received notification Thursday "that the government has decided to re-open discussions with offerers in the competitive range for NASA's CRS-2 contract," according to Krystal Scordo, a spokesperson for Sierra Nevada's Colorado-based space division.
"SNC was sel ected to re-open discussions regarding its CRS-2 proposal," Scordo wrote in an email to Spaceflight Now.
Sierra Nevada says the Dream Chaser space plane is an all-in-one cargo vehicle, with capability to deliver pressurized and unpressurized equipment, dispose of trash with a detachable cargo module, and come back to Earth with research specimens and hardware in need of refurbishment. The lifting body spaceship, which is designed to launch on top of United Launch Alliance's Atlas 5 rocket, is designed to return to Earth for a runway landing.
A SpaceX spokesperson declined comment on the CRS-2 competition before NASA makes its awards.
The fifth company to publicly disclose its commercial cargo proposal, Lockheed Martin, said it would not comment on its status in a pending procurement. Industry sources have said Lockheed Martin's resupply concept was ousted from the competition earlier this year, but the company has not addressed the reports.

Artist's concept of Lockheed Martin's Jupiter/Exoliner cargo resupply platform. Credit: Lockheed Martin


Lockheed Martin's bid included a two-part cargo system featuring the newly-developed Jupiter spacecraft and Exoliner cargo module. The Jupiter satellite would rendezvous with expendable Exoliner supply containers in orbit, ferry them to the space station, then dispose of them.
Officials said the Jupiter spacecraft would be capable of reuse on many missions, loitering in orbit between Exoliner supply launches.
"We feel that our proposal offers value today through affordable, high-capacity space station resupply, and a path forward for tomorrow, through technologies that will power future human deep space missions," said Allison Rakes, a Lockheed Martin spokesperson, in a statement released to Spaceflight Now. "Those missions will need crew habitats, servicing vehicles, and autonomous in-space robotic operations. Our CRS-2 solution is designed to lay the groundwork for all of those important capabilities."
SpaceX and Orbital ATK managers have not unveiled details of their CRS-2 proposals, such as potential upgrades to build on their existing Dragon and Cygnus spacecraft.
Citing delays in the CRS-2 competition, space station managers ordered extra resupply missions from Orbital ATK and SpaceX earlier this year. The additional flights, couched as contract options under the original CRS-1 agreements, give SpaceX a total of 15 cargo launches and Orbital ATK 10 missions, including logistics flights already completed.
Huot said Thursday NASA has not added any more missions to the existing CRS-1 contracts beyond the 15 SpaceX launches and 10 Orbital flights.
The further delay in the cargo award announcement likely means SpaceX and Orbital ATK will resume cargo flights before NASA reveals the CRS-2 contract winners.
Orbital's Cygnus supply freighter is due for launch Dec. 3 aboard ULA's Atlas 5 booster from Cape Canaveral. ULA is looking at whether the liftoff could be moved forward a day, according to Sam Scimemi, director of the International Space Station program at NASA Headquarters.
The next two Cygnus cargo flights are booked to launch on Atlas 5 rockets in December and March while Orbital ATK outfits its Antares booster with new engines to replace the old engines it blames for a launch failure in October 2014. Antares launches are expected to pick up the rest of Orbital's CRS-1 cargo contract beginning in May 2016 from Wallops Island, Virginia.
Scimemi said preparations for SpaceX's next Dragon resupply run — the eighth operational Dragon mission — are proceeding on track for a Jan. 3 launch date, but the schedule depends on flights ahead of the cargo mission in SpaceX's Falcon 9 launch queue.
The Falcon 9 is returning to flight after a June 28 launch mishap, with 11 communications satellites for Orbcomm se t for liftoff fr om Cape Canaveral in early December. Another Falcon 9 launch with the SES 9 television broadcasting satellite will follow with liftoff fr om Florida in late December.
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Apollo13 пишет: 
Небольшой шанс для Дрим Чейзера.

Очень хочется чтобы птычка полетела. Но шанс правда небольшой ...

[Salo]

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/687745144594890754

NASA Подлинная учетная запись ‏@NASA  
Bright future! We sel ected @OrbitalATK, @SNCspacesystems & @SpaceX to deliver @Space_Station cargo fr om 2019-2024. http://snpy.tv/1Q924RA 

[Антон]

Salo пишет:
https://twitter.com/NASA/status/687745144594890754

NASA Подлинная учетная запись ‏@ NASA
Bright future! We sel ected @ OrbitalATK , @ SNCspacesystems & @ SpaceX to deliver @ Space_Station cargo fr om 2019-2024. http://snpy.tv/1Q924RA

Рад за SNC, очень уж хочется увидеть их Дрим Чейзер в космосе

[triage]

Из этой новости впечатление что капсула Боинга в грузовом варианте не будет использоваться. Стоимостью и размерами не вышла?

p.s. добавлено позднее 

 http://www.spacepolicyonline.com/news/nasa-again-delays-award-of-crs2-commercial-cargo-contracts-boeing-out
05-Nov-2015
...
This afternoon, Boeing confirmed to SpacePolicyOnline.com that it was notified by NASA that it has been eliminated from the competition.  In an email, Kelly Kaplan said the company is "confirming that we received a letter today letting us know we were eliminated."   She had no further comment at this time.
...

[silentpom]

"Из этой новости впечатление что капсула Боинга в грузовом варианте не будет использоваться. " - а она нужна для этого? 

[Apollo13]

pnetmon пишет:
Из этой новости впечатление что капсула Боинга в грузовом варианте не будет использоваться. Стоимостью и размерами не вышла?

Давно было известно.

[Paleopulo]

pnetmon пишет:
Из этой новости впечатление что капсула Боинга в грузовом варианте не будет использоваться. Стоимостью и размерами не вышла?

Так они же даже в финал не вышли - давно было ясно, что они "не повезут".

Очень рад за SNC. Надеюсь, что после грузовика они птичку до пилотируемого варианта доведут.

Никто не в курсе - планы тестового полета DC в ноябре 2016 года отменены, или еще актуальны?

[Astro Cat]

Думаю за такими "птичками" будущее в отличии от капсул а-ля 1970-е. )))

[silentpom]

так и птичка из 70х

[Astro Cat]

silentpom пишет:
так и птичка из 70х

Это "Спираль" чтоль? Она опередила время.

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