Союз МС-10 (№740) – Союз-ФГ – Байконур 1/5 – 11.10.2018 – авария РН

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tnt22

ЦитироватьChris B - NSF‏ @NASASpaceflight 8 мин. назад

Todd with no real new info. Thanks the SAR crews for helping rescue the crew. Paratroopers were deployed to the landing site.



ааа

Какая колоритная дамочка в НАСА!
"One small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." ©N.Armstrong
 "Let my people go!" ©L.Armstrong

KBOB

Цитироватьtnt22 пишет:

У них в студии отопление не дали?
Россия больше чем Плутон.

Вован

ЦитироватьInterval пишет:
Цитироватьpnetmon пишет:
 
Цитироватьhttps://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201810111603-orx2.htm

Академик российской Академии космонавтики Игорь Маринин рассказал о полете ракеты-носителя «Союз»...
Цитировать... Так как скорость в момент разделения была примерно две тысячи километров в час, вместо орбитальной в семь тысяч...
Это что за Академия космонавтики такая, где Земную орбитальную скорость принимают равной семи тысячам километров в час ?
Волнение за экипаж сказалось. ;)
Байконур надолго - навсегда

Iva

Поп деньги за не качественно освяченный пуск вернул?
Как он будет наказан?

ZOOR

ЦитироватьBell пишет:
ЦитироватьНовый пишет:
Есть и хорошие новости: скоро нам снимут еще один космический блокбастер.
Кого-кого нам снимут?

Штаны с нас снимут, если испытательный беспилотный и потом за наш счет (но вроде застраховано)
Я зуб даю за то что в первом пуске Ангары с Восточного полетит ГВМ Пингвина. © Старый
Если болит сердце за народные деньги - можно пойти в депутаты. © Neru - Старому

tnt22

Цитировать10/11/2018 19:15 Spaceflight Now

Reid Wiseman, Deputy Chief Astronaut, said today's abort was automatically initiated when a problem was detected with the Soyuz second stage. NASA says it's too early to say what caused the problem. Kenny Todd, International Space Station Operations Integration Manager, said the agency will need to be fully briefed on the outcome of the Russian investigation before clearing its astronauts to fly on future Soyuz missions.

Amilo

NASA сформирует собственную группу по расследованию аварии "Союза" - трансляция NASA TV.

tnt22

Цитировать10/11/2018 19:23 Spaceflight Now

The Soyuz was at an altitude of about 50km when the abort occurred and the capsule landed under its parachute 34 minutes after launch.

tnt22

Цитировать10/11/2018 19:38 Stephen Clark

NASA photographer Bill Ingalls captured the moment of the Soyuz launch anomaly with a powerful tracking lens at the Baikonur Cosmodrome. Two of his photos have been released by NASA.

Three of the four liquid-fueled first stage boosters are visible in the first image, and the launch abort tower is visible ahead of the Soyuz rocket seconds after its jettison before the rocket failure.

In the second image, a wider debris cloud is visible as the Soyuz rocket failed at an altitude of roughly 50 kilometers about two minutes after liftoff, the time at which the rocket's four first stage boosters were programmed to separate and fall back to Earth.




Lesobaza

На этом пуске не было ни Александра Николаевича Иванова, ни Александра Николаевича Кирилина...

Кстати, а сколько Союзов ФГ осталось??
Ad astra per rectum!!

Сергио

содрал с ФБ:

ЦИТАТА
"Варфоломей Чугункин
11.10.2018 в 15:45
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я тут вычислил
отделение спускаемого аппарата на 119 сек, выстоа 46 км, скорость 1775 м/сек. тангаж 29 градусов
тогда 94 сек созю достиг высоты 86 км, скорость 1518 м/сек
максимальная перегрузка 4 же была с 220 сек в течение 9 сек при снижении с 1252 м/сек до 831 м/сек
приземление на расстоянии 398 км от точки старта."
КОНЕЦ ЦИТАТЫ

у меня китайский алибаба грузится быстрее чем НК! блин!

George

Я надеялся, что "ФГ" долетает до окончания серии без аварий. С 2000 года до сегодня не было ни одной. 

На видео видно, что блоки отделились, но вместе с ними полетели большие фрагменты. Причем один из них весьма далеко. Там был взрыв хвостового отсека второй ступени с последующим пожаром. Почему - не знаю.


tnt22

ЦитироватьChris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF 9:02 - 11 окт. 2018 г.

NASA starts briefing by reiterating that the crew is safe!
#Soyuz #MS10 #CrewSafe #SpaceStation


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050416565198278656

"any time you can get a crew safely home, you feel good about what you've accomplished."


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050416630738518017

"Every confidence our Russian counterparts will figure out what happened."

https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050416694647128065

NASA saying they hope to launch these two crew members again soon.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050417017637883904

Special thanks extended to Russian Search and Rescue teams. "Very professional." Paratroopers were involved in toady's crew recovery.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050417289198166016

Russia will form crew commission very soon which will be tasked with understanding what happened and what's needed to get flying again. Russia will report results of what happened with NASA.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050417403278974977

Crew on orbit is fine. Scheduled to come home in December. Don't expect problems with their remaining increment.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050417566894583809

1 activity might be impacted is EVA (spacewalks) as Nick - who was launching today - was one of the spacewalkers.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050417638940147712

ISS is very stable right now.

Сергио

ЦитироватьGeorge пишет:
Я надеялся, что "ФГ" долетает до окончания серии без аварий. С 2000 года до сегодня не было ни одной.

На видео видно, что блоки отделились, но вместе с ними полетели большие фрагменты. Причем один из них весьма далеко. Там был взрыв хвостового отсека второй ступени с последующим пожаром. Почему - не знаю.
морковка справа отделилась позже. ракету заклонило влево.
раньше был пост (с томознутым сайтом невозможно найти. форум через дайл ап работает!) что сначала отделилась САС, потом какими то другими двигателями отделило СА.

tnt22

ЦитироватьChris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF 9:08 - 11 окт. 2018 г.

Astro Reid Wiseman: "This is a good news story. Crew reunited with families. From crew perspective, we train well for aborts. Ready at all times for that abort."

https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050417962350305280

Reid: "Great to see how Soyuz handled this emergency."

tnt22

ЦитироватьChris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF 9:10 - 11 окт. 2018 г.

Q: Imperative to see results before NASA is go for another Soyuz launch?
A: We always work side-by-side. They give us insights we need for our own readiness process. Absolutely we will form our own investigation team.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050418544532316160

Q: What happened dynamically with 2nd stage when abort happened?
A: "What don't have that data at this time."


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050418852251688961

Q: Reid, talk about ballistic reentry?
A: You want to get back in safest mode. For Soyuz, that's ballistic. Descent Module starts spinning for support, then parachute and land. 6-7 Gs experienced.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050418999027163136

Q: Russia reports criminal investigation opened. Is that normal?
A: NASA hadn't heard that, so can't really comment.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050419461725900800

Q: Will Return to Flight for Soyuz mean extended current crew on orbit time?
A: This is a high priority investigation for Roscosmos. Anticipate that sooner rather than later. Can't speculate. Have to let potential crew extension play out.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050419555971944450

Will do what we can within reason to make sure we don't have to de-crew Station.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050419770812555265

Q: Could a crew Soyuz be launched uncrewed in December/January and be automatically docked.
A: How Russian would choose to handle that is TBD if we get there.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050420027311120384

Q: Plan for Nick and crew on today's abort?
A: Just beginning to talk about that. He will he'll fly. When is undetermined.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050420568963477505

Q: How long can current crew stay on Station? How long can Station fly with no crew onboard if needed?
A: Soyuz for current crew expires 4 Jan 2019. A bit of margin, but not much. Station can be uncrewed if needed &be OK for "significant time"


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050421295672741889

Q: Asks about a lot of data points.
A: Mainly speculative, about 50km when abort occurred. 34mins from anomaly to landing.

tnt22

ЦитироватьChris G - NSF‏ @ChrisG_NSF 9:23 - 11 окт. 2018 г.

Q: Does crew have to be on Station for Commercial Crew test flights.
A: Yes, crew has to be on ISS for those flights to monitor Dragon/Starliner approaches.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050422673367429120

Q: How long have Russian investigations typically taken? Does NASA still pay for this launch?
A: 1. Depends on severity of issue and getting data. 2. Defers answer on payment question.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050423063655768065

Q: Asking about Challenger and Columbia being safety valves against launch fever? Do crew have say in how long they stay?
A: They will stay as long as needed. Think about accidents every day.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050423979561824256

Q: Can NASA deviate with Comm Crew and launch Dragon and Starliner uncrewed tests if ISS is decrewed & Soyuz still grounded in mid-2019?
A: We're 8hrs in to this. Not thinking about that. Will make adjustments if/when needed.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050425498071789568

Q: Does this affect Progress resupply flights?
A: Consumables on ISS are in VERY GOOD shape. No issues there. We have supply flights from US coming. NASA reached out to Russia to offer assistance launch Russian stuff on CRS-16 and NG-10.


https://twitter.com/ChrisG_NSF/status/1050427557139570688

Today's abort was automated, but crew did take one manual step (which would have happened anyone) to select "ballistic landing mode."