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http://spacenews.com/orbital-atk-spacex-win-air-force-propulsion-contracts/
ЦитироватьOrbital ATK, SpaceX Win Air Force Propulsion Contracts
by Mike Gruss — January 13, 2016
A Blue Origin's BE-3 engine undergoes testing at the company's West Texas facility in 2013. Credit: Blue Origin
 
WASHINGTON – The U.S. Air Force said Jan. 13 it has chosen to invest up to $241 million in rocket propulsion systems Orbital ATK and SpaceX pitched as a way to end Air Force dependence the Russian-built rocket engine it uses to launch most U.S. national security payloads.
In a press release announcing the contracts, the Air Force Space and Missile Systems Center said it could still make additional awards.
"The Air Force is still in negotiations with the remaining offerors and subsequent awards, if any, will occur over the next few months," the service said.
Orbital ATK won the biggest share of the money awarded Jan. 13. The Dulles, Virginia-based company stands to receive at least $46.9 million, and perhaps as much as $180 million, to develop three rocket propulsion system prototypes intended for use on an Orbital ATK next-generation launch vehicle.
Specifically, Orbital ATK will combine the Air Force money with at least $31 million, and as much as $124 million, of its own to develop the GEM 63XL strap-on solid rocket motor, the Common Booster Segment solid rocket motor, and an extendable nozzle for Blue Origin's BE-3U upper stage engine.

SpaceX, meanwhile, will get at least $33.6 million, and perhaps as much as $61 million, to continue development of its methane-fueled Raptor engine. SpaceX is expected to match the Air Force's investment in Raptor with at least $67 million, and as much as $123 million, according to the Air Force contract announcement.
The Air Force is under pressure to end its dependence on the RD-180, the Russian-built engine that powers the main stage of United Launch Alliance's Atlas 5 rocket.
Congress has directed the Defense Department to develop a domestic propulsion systems that would enable the Air Force by 2019 to end its reliance on RD-180.
When the Air Force solicited proposals in June, it said it was willing to fund work on both main- and upper-stage rocket engines.
The Air Force has said industry would be expected to cover at least one-third of the costs of their proposed development efforts, but the actual size of the government investment would vary from proposal to proposal
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Salo

https://twitter.com/Gruss_SN/status/687397916441489409
Цитировать Mike Gruss ‏@Gruss_SN
Air Force announcement says Orbital-ATK's next-generation rocket could use Blue Origin BE-3 for its upper stage engine.
 14:16 - 13 янв. 2016 г.
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Salo

Т.е. ЦБ и ускорители твердотопливные собственного производства, а верхняя ступень водородная с использованием BE-3 с своим высотным сопловым насадком.
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Salo

#3
http://www.losangeles.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123466879
ЦитироватьAir Force Awards Two Rocket Propulsion System Prototype OTAs

 Posted 1/13/2016   Updated 1/13/2016 
 
1/13/2016 - LOS ANGELES AIR FORCE BASE, Calif.  -- Today the Space and Missile Systems Center awarded the first two Other Transaction Agreements (OTAs) for shared public-private investments in Rocket Propulsion System (RPS) prototypes to SpaceX for development testing of the Raptor upper stage engine and Orbital ATK for development of the Common Booster Segment main stage, the Graphite Epoxy Motor (GEM) 63XL strap-on booster, and an extendable nozzle for Blue Origin's BE-3U/EN upper stage engine.  The initial government contribution to the SpaceX OTA is $33.6 million.  The initial government contribution to the Orbital ATK OTA is $46.9 million.  The Air Force is still in negotiations with the remaining offerors and subsequent awards, if any, will occur over the next few months.  The OTA awards are part of a comprehensive Air Force plan to transition off the Russian- supplied RD-180 propulsion system used on the Atlas V rocket by investing in industry solutions with the ultimate goal to competitively procure launch services in a domestic launch market.
 
 "Having two or more domestic, commercially viable launch providers that also meet national security space requirements is our end goal," said Lt. Gen. Samuel Greaves, the Air Force's Program Executive Officer for Space and SMC commander.  "These awards are essential in order to solidify U.S. assured access to space, transition the EELV program away from strategic foreign reliance, and support the U.S. launch industry's commercial viability in the global market."
 
 The Air Force will award a portfolio of investments in industry's RPS solutions, which vary depending on what industry proposed.  The solicitation allowed companies to submit proposals for the development of a RPS prototype, which ranged from full development of a new RPS, modifications to an existing RPS to meet NSS requirements, smaller projects to address high risk items for an RPS or subcomponents, or activities required to test or qualify a new or existing RPS to meet EELV requirements.  Therefore, the value of each agreement varies depending on what was proposed. At least one third of the total cost of the RPS prototype project will be paid out of funds provided by parties to the transactions other than the federal government.
 
 These RPS investments, which will initially occur over the course of 12-18 months, will build the foundation for future investments in industry launch system solutions and launch service commitments from invested companies.  Concurrently, the Air Force will continue to award launch services contracts to certified providers who demonstrate the capability to design, produce, qualify, and deliver launch systems and provide the mission assurance support required to deliver national security space satellites to orbit.
 
 Air Force Space Command's Space and Missile Systems Center, located at Los Angeles Air Force Base, Calif., is the U.S. Air Force's center of acquisition excellence for acquiring and developing military space systems. Its portfolio includes the Global Positioning System, Military Satellite Communications, Defense Meteorological Satellites, Space Launch and Range Systems, Satellite Control Networks, Space Based Infrared Systems and Space Situational Awareness capabilities.
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Димитър

Еще одна ракета? Зачем? Ведь ULA делает такую ракету, и Блю Оригин вроде тоже делают свою  ...

silentpom

возможно, орбитал хочет по пути спейсикс

Apollo13

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
Т.е. ЦБ и ускорители твердотопливные собственного производства
Вряд-ли ракете с твердотопливной первой ступенью нужны еще ускорители. Эти ускорители для Атласа и Вулкана.

Apollo13

#7
Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
Еще одна ракета? Зачем?
Для ВВС. Затем что "чисто американская".

ЦитироватьДимитър пишет:
Ведь ULA делает такую ракету
Не совсем такую. Орбитал давно предлагал военным сделать ракету на смену Дельты-2 при совместном финансировании.

Apollo13

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum13/topic7939/message1406108/#message1406108

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:
По наводке с NSF. Много букв. Скопировал только интересное.

 http://docs.house.gov/meetings/AS/AS29/20150626/103668/HHRG-114-AS29-Wstate-CulbertsonF-20150626.pdf
ЦитироватьHouse Armed Services Committee
Strategic Forces Subcommittee
26 June 2015

 Testimony Presented by Frank L. Culbertson, Jr., Capt, USN (ret) President/Space Systems Group Orbital ATK, Inc.
ЦитироватьAs both a launch vehicle builder and a propulsion system supplier, Orbital ATK is uniquely
positioned to support the Air Force RPS Prototype Program. Orbital ATK has proposed both
solid and liquid propulsion developments that will support a new all-American launch vehicle family that meets all the specified national security launch requirements as well as civil
government, commercial and international launch needs. Our new systems will be developed in
a public/private partnership with significant private investment supplementing government
funding. We are confident that our alternatives will be ready to support first flights by early
2019. For our vehicles and propulsion systems, we will combine advanced solid rocket motor and liquid engine technologies to create a modular family of highly affordable and commercially competitive launch vehicles. Beyond their contribution to assured and affordable access to space, these new systems will also strengthen our country's technology base and increase its industrial utilization to benefit the U.S. Navy and Air Force's strategic missile, MDA's missile defense and NASA's human space flight programs as well.
ЦитироватьRecommendations

3. Encourae the Air Force to expand its EELV Phase 2 proam to include consideration of
 medium-lift vehicles in adtion to intermediate- and heavy-lift launchers. As satellite
architectures continue to evolve over the next 25 to 30 years, when these new launch vehicles are
operational, many types of space payloads are likely to become lighter and not require heavy
launch capabilities. By ensuring the full consideration of medium-lift vehicles in its plans, DoD
will provide even stronger incentives to industry to invest in a broader range of launch and
propulsion systems and to further drive down launch costs.

Орбитал АТК предлагает ВВС новое "полностью американское" семейство РН среднего класса, которое может быть готово к первым полетам в 2019.

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:

Судя по этому они хотят двигатель Blue Origin.
ЦитироватьNew Liquid Propulsion Ennes
While the Urn'fed States is the world's undisputed leader in development and production of solid
rocket motors, the same cannot be said for our current position related to large liquid rocket
engines. Fortunately, this deficiency is now being addressed by several new and innovative
liquid propulsion system suppliers. In particular, we are impressed by the progress being made
 by Blue Origin in its BE-3 and BE-4 liquid hydrogen and methane engine programs which are
being developed with private investment. Based on the progress thus far, the BE-3\BE-4 engines
have the potential to advance United States liquid rocket engines far ahead of what is currently
being produced overseas. And like the solid propulsion technology we are developing internally, we believe the BE engines can be available for operational use by 2019 and will be offered at commercially attractive prices.
In addition, Blue Origin has committed to be a merchant supplier of its liquid engines, making
them available to all interested U.S. launch vehicle integrators. As a result, competition among
vehicle companies will be promoted and production rates on BE engines will be increased,
leading to lower costs for all launch service customers.

Apollo13

Кстати. Пока в ветке SLS плачут что опять закроют Арес 5, здесь похоже возвращение уменьшенного Ареса 1. Обама его в дверь а он в окно :)

silentpom

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:
Вряд-ли ракете с твердотопливной первой ступенью нужны еще ускорители. Эти ускорители для Атласа и Вулкана.
Были прикидки, можно ли использовать один ТТУ для замены первой ступени антареса - получалось, что даже если взять ТТУ от Титана - не донесет. Слишком большой пустой вес. Надо 2 или 3 ступени для замены одной с ЖРД. Но возможно, можно взять один большой ТТУ и вязанку GEM-63

Apollo13

Тут скорее что-то вроде уменьшенного ускорителя SLS будет. Его-то точно хватит.

Salo

https://twitter.com/Gruss_SN/status/687488619842539520
Цитировать Mike Gruss ‏@Gruss_SN  
Rob Meyerson, president of Blue Origin, on the Air Force's rocket contract awards tonight:  
 
  20:17 - 13 янв. 2016 г.  
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silentpom

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:
Тут скорее что-то вроде уменьшенного ускорителя SLS будет. Его-то точно хватит.
не хватит. я сам удивился когда читал, даже пересчитывал. постараюсь найти статью

Apollo13

Цитироватьsilentpom пишет:
ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:
Тут скорее что-то вроде уменьшенного ускорителя SLS будет. Его-то точно хватит.
не хватит. я сам удивился когда читал, даже пересчитывал. постараюсь найти статью
ТТУ от SLS + большая водородная ступень на J-2X = Арес 1 (25 т). Даже если то и другое уменьшить в 2 раза (как раз получится BE-3) все равно будет куда больше Антареса.

Apollo13

http://spacenews.com/orbital-developing-rocket-to-compete-with-spacex-ula/

ЦитироватьOrbital Developing Rocket To Compete With SpaceX, ULA

WASHINGTON – Orbital ATK is developing a new intermediate to heavy-class rocket that could eventually compete with SpaceX and United Launch Alliance to launch national security satellites.

The recently merged rocketmaker, based out of Dulles, Virginia, won a $46 million U.S. Air Force contract as part of the service's efforts to help wean itself from the Russian rocket engine used in launching most military satellites. Some of Orbital ATK's new work will be used in ULA's next-generation Vulcan rocket. But the Air Force said in a Jan. 13 announcement that the technologies, including a Common Booster Segment solid rocket motor, "are intended for use on an Orbital ATK next generation launch vehicle."

Orbital ATK officials confirmed Jan. 14 that the company was studying a medium- to heavy-class rocket that would compete in the Air Force's Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle program. The new rocket, which does not have a name, would primarily be powered by solid motors, said Mark Pieczynski, vice president of business development for Orbital ATK's flight systems group.

A first flight could come as soon as 2019, he said.

"Orbital ATK is evaluating concepts that utilize solid propulsion elements as the basis of an American-built, intermediate to heavy class family of EELVs capable of launching Air Force and other payloads," Pieczynski said in an email. "The solid propulsion and propulsion elements we are developing under this agreement will help achieve low-cost assured access for current and future National Security Space launch requirements."

Blue Origin's BE-3 engine is the leading candidate to become the rocket's upper stage engine, although Orbital ATK is studying other options as well, Pieczynski said. The BE-3 also is one of three upper-stage engines ULA is considering for Vulcan.

Congress has directed the Defense Department to develop domestic propulsion systems that would enable the Air Force by 2019 to end its reliance on the Russian RD-180 rocket engine, used to power ULA's Atlas 5 rocket.

Before Orbital Sciences and ATK merged in February 2015, the two companies had considered independent and joint responses to the Air Force's request for propulsion solutions. Both were long thought to have an interest in the national security market by industry and government officials. In 2014, ATK executives argued solid-rocket motors are a relatively near-term replacement and less expensive option than liquid fueled engines, despite a preference from lawmakers for a plug-and-play option to replace the RD-180.

With the Jan. 13 award, Pieczynski said Orbital ATK would spend much of its time in the next few months determining the optimum size of the solid rocket motors.

The base Air Force contract would cover qualification testing, structural testing and a critical design review in the first half of 2017. If the Air Force exercises all options, the contract could include a static fire test in 2018 and a test flight in 2019.

Orbital ATK submitted a letter of intent to the Air Force last year to start the certification process that would allow the rocket to launch national security payloads.

Pieczynski said the development of a certification plan, which includes how many successful launches the rocket would need before flying Defense Department payloads, would begin in the first half of this year.

If certified, the new rocket would compete with SpaceX's Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy rockets and ULA's Delta 4 Heavy and Vulcan rockets. The Air Force and U.S. lawmakers have put a premium on having what they call "assured access to space." By policy that would mean the Defense Department would have at least two providers to launch military and spy satellites.

The emphasis on assured access comes because Air Force leaders are concerned about a potential gap in future years. ULA has said it is retiring its Delta 4 rocket around 2018, leaving the company's Atlas 5 rocket for medium-class missions to compete with SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket. However, the future of the Atlas 5 has been clouded by questions about the availability of the Russian engine that powers the rocket.

In addition, SpaceX's Falcon Heavy rocket has yet to make its first flight, leaving ULA's Delta 4 Heavy as the only heavy-class rocket available to the Defense Department.

Орбитал АТК изучает возможность создания ракеты среднего-тяжелого класса. Если ВВС согласится первые стендовые испытания в 2018, первый полет в 2019. Ракета будет конкурентом Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy (!), Delta 4 Heavy (!) и Vulcan.

Без навесных ТТУ явно не обойтись. И похоже 1-я ступень будет не сильно меньше ускорителя SLS...

Salo

Ну дык тяга BE-3U явно намекает на размерчик. Да и задел по Аресу пристроить хоцца.
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silentpom

ЦитироватьApollo13 пишет:
ТТУ от SLS + большая водородная ступень на J-2X = Арес 1 (25 т). Даже если то и другое уменьшить в 2 раза (как раз получится BE-3) все равно будет куда больше Антареса.
Ну если большая водородная ступень, тогда может быть и полетит. 
Вот тут рассуждения как нам обустроить антарес на ТТУ
http://www.spacelaunchreport.com/santares.html


Salo

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech/science/space/2016/04/21/ksc-could-launch-new-orbital-atk-rocket/83341276/
ЦитироватьKSC could launch new Orbital ATK rocket
James Dean, FLORIDA TODAY 3:09 p.m. EDT April 21, 2016

(Photo: NASA/Kim Shiflett)

NASA today will announce it has begun negotiations with Orbital ATK about the potential use of Kennedy Space Center's Vehicle Assembly Building and other facilities to support launches of a new commercial rocket.
The rocket is in the very early stages of development as a possible competitor to SpaceX and United Launch Alliance vehicles, and its future funding is uncertain, but Orbital ATK has said it could be ready to launch as soon as 2019.
If it does materialize, a deal with Orbital ATK would further KSC's vision of becoming a "multi-user spaceport" by making commercial use of a facilities now needed only for NASA missions.
Today's announcement follows KSC's request last year for proposals from private companies interested in using the assembly building's vacant High Bay 2, where space shuttles were once assembled for launches, as well as former shuttle mobile launch platforms.
Use of that infrastructure would position a large rocket to launch from KSC's pad 39B, whose primary purpose is to support liftoffs of NASA's Space Launch System rocket and Orion exploration capsule starting in late 2018.
Orbital ATK's proposed rocket, so far unnamed, would pair a solid-fueled first stage booster with an upper stage engine provided by Blue Origin.
The rocket would aim to win Air Force certification to launch national security missions, and would not displace Orbital ATK's smaller Antares rocket launched from Wallops Island, Virginia.
The Air Force earlier this year awarded Orbital ATK $47 million to study the new concept as part of a broader program to develop domestic alternatives to the Russian RD-180 engine flown by ULA's Atlas V rocket, which launches most U.S. military missions.
Aerojet Rocketdyne, SpaceX and ULA also won Air Force study contracts to study new propulsion systems.
Orbital ATK and NASA officials declined to comment on the pending announcement.
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