CCtCap - Commercial Crew Transportation Capability

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Salo

http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/36559next-round-of-commercial-crew-round-likely-to-support-only-two-competitors#.UfqzWKw2PTo
ЦитироватьNext Round of Commercial Crew Round Likely To Support Only Two Competitors
   
By Dan Leone | Jul. 31, 2013


"I don't believe we are going to be able to carry three in the next round," Phil McAlister, NASA's director of commercial spaceflight development, said. Credit: SpaceNews photo

WASHINGTON — Competition in NASA's Commercial Crew Program will probably get a little thinner in the fourth round, an agency official said here July 30.
"I don't believe we are going to be able to carry three in the next round," Phil McAlister, NASA's director of commercial spaceflight development, told the NASA Advisory Council's (NAC) Human Exploration and Operations Committee during a meeting at NASA headquarters here. "I think two would probably be sufficient to maintain competition."
NASA currently is carrying three teams under its effort to replace the space shuttle's crew-carrying capacity to the international space station with privately designed spacecraft. Two of those teams, Boeing and Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX), were awarded $460 million and $440 million, respectively, last August to develop rival capsules. A third team, Sierra Nevada Corp., was awarded $212.5 million, an amount NASA acknowledged would put the Louisville, Colo.-based firm's winged spaceplane design on a trailing development schedule.
The reason NASA only expects to carry two teams beyond next summer, as more senior NASA officials have said, is the budget. Congress to date has been unwilling to fund the program anywhere close to the roughly $800 million a year NASA says it needs to keep multiple teams on track to offer crew transportation services by 2017. While  Congress approved $525 million for the program for 2013, across the board spending cuts known as sequestration would leave NASA with less than $500 million to spend on the effort this year. NASA proposed in May shifting funds fr om other programs to boost commercial crew spending back up to $525 million, but that proposal — known as an operating plan — has yet to be approved by NASA's congressional oversight committees.
NASA's 2014 budget request — sent to Congress in April — seeks $821 million for commercial crew. If NASA does not get the big increase it is seeking for the program, McAlister said, NASA may not be able to meet its goal of getting at least one commercial crew system flying in 2017.
"It'll slow us down," he told the NAC.
NASA on July 19 released the draft solicitation for the next round of the Commercial Crew Program, a certification phase expected to include the first crewed space launch from U.S. soil since July 8, 2011, when the last space shuttle missions left the pad.
NASA will meet with industry on Aug. 1-2 to gather feedback about the draft Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) solicitation, then issue a final solicitation in October. CCtCap proposals would be due by December, with an award expected next summer, McAlister said.
Bidders will have to propose at least one crewed flight to the international space station under CCtCap in order to be eligible for follow-on task orders.
"We're saying at least one to the [international space station] ... in order to get certified," McAlister said. "I anticipate all the partners will propose additional test flights."
NASA intends to book astronaut flights from certified providers via task orders, each of which would be for between two and six "post-certification missions," according to the CCtCap draft solicitation. CCtCap also allows NASA to book cargo deliveries from certified providers, although "[t]his is not intended to be a replacement for existing cargo services," such as the Commercial Resupply Services agreements NASA already has with SpaceX and Orbital Sciences Corp., according to the draft solicitation.
Meanwhile, around the time NASA expects to be making CCtCap awards, the agency will have to make a decision on whether to book seats for its astronauts aboard Soyuz spacecraft launching after June 2017, the latest date for which NASA has arranged rides for its space station crew members.
In April, NASA announced it had booked six round trips to the space station aboard Soyuz for about $70 million apiece. The deal is an extension of NASA's existing contract with the Russian space agency, Roscosmos.
Soyuz bookings have a 36-month lead time, so arranging flights beyond June 2017 will require NASA to take action next year, Sam Scimemi, director of the international space station program at NASA headquarters, told members of the NAC's Human Exploration and Operations Committee July 29.
Between the budget, the impending decision about more Soyuz seats and the fact that the aging space station to which the Commercial Crew Program's fate is tethered has not yet been approved to fly beyond 2020, the debate about NASA's Commercial Crew procurement plans turned passionate on July 30.
As McAlister made the case for maintaining as much competition as possible in a Commercial Crew Program that has never been funded at the level NASA says is necessary, Richard Kohrs, the former deputy director of the space shuttle program who now chairs the NAC committee McAlister spoke to, appeared to reach the lim it of his patience.
Flying in 2017 is "a goal," McAlister said. On the other hand, "it's actually a requirement for the program, it's an objective, that they [the contractors] produce safe, reliable and cost effective [transportation systems]. I believe competition supports all three of those simultaneously."
"You want safe reliable transportation, don't f--- up," Kohrs replied. "Let's go do this goddamn thing for 20 years! We'll be safe and reliable, you won't have any problems."
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Salo

"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

SFN

А кратенько по-русски что? Неваду побоку?

Ну-и-ну

По-русски - пилотируемый космос от "эффективных" частников стоит до.уя. Предстоит попилить ещё 3.4 ярда за пятилетку, дабо оно стало безопасно.

Valerij

ЦитироватьНу-и-ну пишет:
По-русски - пилотируемый космос от "эффективных" частников стоит до.уя. Предстоит попилить ещё 3.4 ярда за пятилетку, дабо оно стало безопасно.
   
А если не пилить, а тупо работать?

Уилбер Райт: "Признаюсь, в 1901-м я сказал своему брату Орвиллу, что человек не будет летать лет пятьдесят. А два года спустя мы сами взлетели".


Ну-и-ну

А это был, говоря по-английски, типичный butthurt.


tnt22

Цитировать Jeff Foust‏ @jeff_foust 19 мин. назад

From NASA's Lisa Colloredo, schedule of commercial crew demo missions for Boeing and SpaceX in 2018:


14 мин. назад

Milestone schedules for Boeing (top) and SpaceX commercial crew vehicles.


8 мин. назад

Colloredo: very difficult loss-of-crew (LOC) requirement to meet for commercial crew, but made a lot of progress. Helped address the top drivers for LOC.

2 мин. назад

Colloredo: in the end, pretty likely Boeing and SpaceX will present data to argue they meet LOC requirement or come close. Will be up to NASA to do due diligence to confirm that.

Salo

"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

tnt22

ЦитироватьSalo пишет:
https://www.nasa.gov/specials/CCP2017/
Облегчённый вариант:

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/01/03/commercial-crew-program-2017-year-in-review/
ЦитироватьPosted Jan 3, 2018 at 12:22 pm on Commercial Crew Program
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https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2018/01/03/commercial-crew-program-2017-year-in-review/
ЦитироватьPosted Jan 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm on Kennedy Space Center
ЦитироватьCommercial Crew Program 2017 Year in Review
Anna Heiney


Left: SpaceX unveiled the first look at its new spacesuit design that astronauts flying to and from the International Space Station will wear inside the Crew Dragon spacecraft. Right: Boeing unveiled the company's new, blue spacesuit astronauts will wear while aboard the Starliner spacecraft to and from the International Space Station.

NASA's Commercial Crew Program and commercial partners, Boeing and SpaceX, made significant strides in 2017 to return human spaceflight to the United States. Each company continued to develop and test unique space systems to fly astronauts for the agency to and from the International Space Station. Both companies are targeting flight tests in 2018.

Here's the 2017 year in review:

Crew Rotation Missions Secured
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NASA's Commercial Crew Program started the year by securing an additional four crew rotation missions from Boeing and SpaceX. The missions will carry astronauts to and from the International Space Station through 2024. The four additional missions fall under the Commercial Crew Transportation Capability contracts and bring the total number of crew rotation missions awarded to each provider to six. The missions will fly following NASA certification.

To meet NASA's requirements, the commercial providers must demonstrate that their systems are ready to begin regular flights to the space station. Two of those demonstrations are uncrewed flight tests, known as Orbital Flight Test for Boeing, and Demonstration Mission 1 for SpaceX. After the uncrewed flight tests, each company will carry out a flight test with crew prior to being certified by NASA for crew rotation missions.
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The Crew
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NASA's four astronauts training to fly the test flights on Boeing's Starliner and SpaceX's Crew Dragon spent time evaluating both providers' progress during 2017. The astronauts are learning about the systems, being fitted for spacesuits and readying for flight tests to and from the International Space Station.
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The International Space Station
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The International Space Station continued to prepare for the new commercial spacecraft to arrive. During Orbital ATK's resupply mission to the space station in November, the cargo spacecraft maneuvered above the Harmony module prior to its release. There, it gathered data relevant to future rendezvous and docking operations for U.S. commercial crew vehicles that will be arriving for a linkup to Harmony's international docking adapters. Other work included the space station crew installing and performing check-outs of a control panel on Harmony for the docking adapter.
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igorvele8

Интересно, сколько еще наса не опубликовало информации


tnt22

Краткая версия "NASA Commercial Crew Program Mission in Sight for 2018"

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/01/04/commercial-crew-2018-preview/
ЦитироватьPosted Jan 4, 2018 at 4:00 pm on Commercial Crew Program
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https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2018/01/04/commercial-crew-2018-preview/
ЦитироватьPosted Jan 4, 2018 at 4:01 pm on Kennedy Space Center
ЦитироватьCommercial Crew 2018 Preview
Anna Heiney



NASA and industry partners, Boeing and SpaceX, are targeting the return of human spaceflight from Florida's Space Coast in 2018. Both companies are scheduled to begin flight tests to prove the space systems meet NASA's requirements for certification in the coming year.
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Since NASA awarded contracts to Boeing and SpaceX, the companies have matured space system designs and now have substantial spacecraft and launch vehicle hardware in development and testing in preparation for the test flights. The goal of the Commercial Crew Program is safe, reliable and cost-effective transportation to and from the International Space Station from the United States through a public-private approach. NASA, Boeing and SpaceX have significant testing underway, which will ultimately lead to test missions when the systems are ready and meet safety requirements.

Boeing's Starliner will launch on a United Launch Alliance Atlas V rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 and SpaceX's Crew Dragon will launch on the company's Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A.

After completion of each company's uncrewed and crewed flight tests, NASA will review the flight data to verify the systems meet the requirements for certification. Upon NASA certification, the companies are each slated to fly six crew missions to the International Space Station beginning in 2019 and continuing through 2024.

Here's a look at (some of) what's ahead in 2018:

Boeing
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Spacecraft: In 2018, Boeing will continue with the production and outfitting of three crew modules and multiple service modules inside the Commercial Crew and Cargo Processing Facility at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Boeing already has a structural version of its spacecraft going through loads, shock and separation test events in Huntington Beach, California. It will conduct a series of service module hot-fire tests in White Sands, New Mexico, as well as environmental testing to include thermal, vacuum and electromagnetic frequency in El Segundo, California.

Spacesuit: Boeing's spacesuit will continue to undergo integrated system verification tests. These include environmental control and life support system testing, immersing the suit in water, egress demos with the aid of virtual reality, suited launch and landing cabin operations, prelaunch emergency exit with ground crews, ascent simulations with mission operations teams and post-landing egress.
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SpaceX
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Spacecraft: SpaceX is making significant progress on the six Crew Dragon spacecraft that the company currently has in various stages of production and testing. SpaceX's structural qualification module has undergone extensive testing, which is scheduled to be complete in the first half of 2018. The company will continue ongoing hardware and software testing on its Environment Control and Life Support System, or ECLSS, module, through early 2018. The crew module that will be used to support SpaceX's upcoming Demonstration Mission 1 has had its critical onboard avionics powered up and has completed integration of the module's pressure section and service section's structural components with preparations ongoing for its flight in 2018. Progress continues on SpaceX's spacecraft for Demonstration Mission 2 and both of the company's initial crew rotation missions.

Spacesuit: SpaceX will continue ongoing qualification and validation testing on its advanced spacesuits next year, including NASA's four CCP flight test astronauts for a variety of the assessments, including suit-fit, reach and visibility assessments, and pressure tests. The company is in the process of manufacturing custom suits for each of the four astronauts, which will ensure a proper fit and comfortable ride to and from the International Space Station in the Crew Dragon spacecraft.
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Salo

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/01/11/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-test-flight-dates-2/
ЦитироватьNASA's Commercial Crew Program Target Test Flight Dates
Anna Heiney
Posted on January 11, 2018
                   
The next generation of American spacecraft and rockets that will launch astronauts to the International Space Station are nearing the final stages of development and evaluation. NASA's Commercial Crew Program will return human spaceflight launches to U.S. soil, providing reliable and cost-effective access to low-Earth orbit on systems that meet our safety and mission requirements. To meet NASA's requirements, the commercial providers must demonstrate that their systems are ready to begin regular flights to the space station. Two of those demonstrations are uncrewed flight tests, known as Orbital Flight Test for Boeing, and Demonstration Mission 1 for SpaceX. After the uncrewed flight tests, both companies will execute a flight test with crew prior to being certified by NASA for crew rotation missions. The following schedule reflects the most recent publicly releasable dates for both providers.

Targeted Test Flight Dates:
 Boeing Orbital Flight Test (uncrewed): August 2018
 Boeing Crew Flight Test (crewed): November 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 1 (uncrewed): August 2018
 SpaceX Demonstration Mission 2 (crewed): December 2018
"Были когда-то и мы рысаками!!!"

Astro Cat

Уже с апреля на август уехал первый пуск? Вот это тянучка. И боинг вперед вышел по дате пилотируемого полета.

FarEcho

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ЦитироватьAstro Cat пишет:
Уже с апреля на август уехал первый пуск? Вот это тянучка. И боинг вперед вышел по дате пилотируемого полета.
Неудивительно. NASA периодически редактирует ТЗ к кораблю SpaceX. К примеру новое требование, чтобы у пилотируемого Dragon было 4 парашюта, вместо ранее согласованных трех. У Starliner по-прежнему предполагается 3. Так что тут какие-то неясные течения.
Впрочем, не уверен, что и Boing уложится в обновленный график.

LRV_75

Как обычно график НАСА потихоньку лезет на мой график )))

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic13239/message1726476/#message1726476


ЦитироватьТогда текущий график с учетом переноса тестового полета на август 2018 выглядит так: 
Flight to ISS without Crew - август 2018 
Flight to ISS with Crew - апрель/май 2019 
Certified Crewed Flight - апрель 2020
Цитировать
Главное не наличие проблем, главное способность их решать.
У каждой ошибки есть Имя и Фамилия

Max Andriyahov

SpaceX
сегодня в 5:03


Несколько тезисов от президента и операционного директора SpaceX Гвинн Шотвел с дискуссии о коммерческом освоении космоса, в которой она приняла участие совместно с Кристофером Фергюсоном – директором по пилотируемой программе Boeing в TAMEST (Academy of Medicine, Engineering & Science of Texas) 

(показывая зрителям видео о работе полигона в МакГрегоре, Техас - https://youtu.be/TXYh4re0j8M ) - "рекорд по количеству испытаний двигателей составил 12 в день"

"Площадка на собственном космодроме в Браунсвилле (Техас) будет готова к испытаниям в конце 2018 года - начале 2019 года" 

"В течении ближайших нескольких дней ожидаются огневые испытания двигателя SuperDraco, создаваемого для кк Dragon 2" 

О прожиге Falcon Heavy: «Мы аккуратно и тщательно проверяем всё на каждом шагу. Это зверь, а не ракета» 

О соперничестве с Boeing (ред.: касательно пилотируемых миссий): «Мы идем с ними ноздря в ноздрю в плане графика полетов» 

"Мы смотрим на Марс. Эта планета - своего рода наивысшая цель. Но мы будем участвовать и в лунной программе." 

"Наш план полетов к Марсу включает участок, который корабль будет проходить на крейсерской скорости в 100,000 км/ч" 

На вопрос «Где Зума?»: 
«Вы же знаете, я не могу об этом говорить. История о том, что с ней произошло должна быть рассказана не нами»

Чебурашка

На NSF пишут что NASA решила что первым будет именно Boeing  :D

Salo

Fox: NASA отложило пилотируемые полеты кораблей SpaceX и Boeing до весны 2019 года
Подробнее на ТАСС:
http://tass.ru/kosmos/4870845
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